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For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright

by nogo war, Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:32:07 PM EST

I had hoped some genuine Links would have been provided to provide what Rev. Wright said last night in front of the NAACP and today in D.C. Lacking those I am providing these.

The vortex of crap that has surfaced concerning Rev. Wright from alleged Democrats here at MyDD will not go unanswered.Here is my answer...it will not last here, but perhaps a few will find it.

Detroit...last night
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/28/w right.transcript/index.html

Washington D.C. Natl. Press Club...this morning
http://www.press.org/members/transcript/ 20080428_wright.pdf

The petty character assignations against Rev. Wright should end here at MyDD.

The echoing of Republican/Rove phrases directed against Rev. Wright should end here at MyDD.

The arrogance of non-African Americans pretending they are offended by something they have no clue about should end at MyDD.

Of course, it won't end. People commenting here who never served in the the military as Rev. Wright did, will continue to question Rev. Wright's patriotism.

People who do not attend a religious service a least once a week will continue to make value judgments based upon religious issues.

People who support Sen. Clinton, and are desperate to find some shiny thing to detract from the reality that their candidate came up short this time, will continue to find fault with Rev. Wright.

But those that take the the time to read the transcripts, without having the image of the source, will be enlightened.

Tap yer toes....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7ODJHUX_ EM

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Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (2.00 / 1)

Take a hike. When someone blames America for 9/11 I don't give them a pass.

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by owl06 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:34:59 PM EST

That's great (none / 0)

If Wright had actually done that, then you might have a point.

Way to only listen to soundbytes. Karl Rove appreciates it.

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by Dracomicron on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:39:00 PM EST
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Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (2.00 / 1)

Yeah, because our foreign policy, not to mention billions of CIA money, ever had anything to do with or lead in any way to the attacks of 9/11.

Because I wont trade humanity for patriotism!

by Drewid on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:39:36 PM EST
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Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (none / 0)

Come on now, don't you know anything?

The terrorists attacked on 9-11 because they hate our freedom.

President Bush said so.

by emptythreatsfarm on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:52:20 PM EST
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Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (none / 0)

did you see a book review on the daily show, and now you are a foreign policy expert? are we just the external enemy?

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by owl06 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:35:08 PM EST
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Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (none / 0)

It does not excuse the attacks.

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by owl06 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:34:28 PM EST
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Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (2.00 / 1)

Does that apply to the CIA? Because they write of "Blowback" in the 9/11 commission report. I wish people here would get over their blind nationalism.

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by CardBoard on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:39:47 PM EST
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Clinton Surrogates W/ Connections to Rev. Wright! (none / 0)

It is time for the Republican-controlled Media to give this Wright controversy some fairness and enquire of Hillary Clinton and her surrogates the following:

Is it true that, (1) Hillary surrogate, Congresswoman Shiela Jackson Lee, is also a devotee of Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright; that he's been preaching at her home church, where she is actively involved, annually for the past 15 years and has an open invitation to return, and, that she sat in the pews for his visits and did not bat an eye?

Is it true that (2) Hillary surrogate, Rev. Marcia Dyson was not only a longtime member of Trinity United Church of Christ but also still considers Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright her pastor? That Rev. Marcia Dyson's seminary education, in part, was sponsored by Trinity UCC and encouraged by Rev. Wright? And was it not at Trinity were she first met her husband, Rev. Dr. Michael Dyson, who's been very vocal in his defense of Rev. Wright.?

And, lastly of Hillary Clinton, that if Rev. Wright would not have been her Pastor, then why did she and Bill when going through Impeachment, turn to Rev. Wright for Prayer and Support and invite him to the White House? These things should be answered.

by bacalove on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:05:46 PM EST
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What the heck are you talking about? (none / 0)

Hillary surrogates what? What does that have to do with anything? You're talking apples and oranges. Wright is Obama's pastor, and not Hillary's. It means nothing that 'hillary surrogates' like Wright, too. I'm not voting for her surrogates.

Neither am I voting for Obama.

""And, lastly of Hillary Clinton, that if Rev. Wright would not have been her Pastor, then why did she and Bill when going through Impeachment, turn to Rev. Wright for Prayer and Support and invite him to the White House? These things should be answered.""

This is my favorite Obamaton inanity. No one 'turned to' Wright, he was invited to a dinner party/apology damage control thing that Clinton put together along with many other preacher types. That was a dog and pony show. That in no way equates to twenty years of Wright being Obama's spiritual mentor etc etc.

What a reach.

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by switching sides on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:36:38 PM EST
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Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (none / 0)

Go back to Red State. You know that's not what he did. But you'll use right-wing talking points for your candidate.

by elrod on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:09:54 PM EST
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Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (none / 0)

that's exactly what he did. Now say "god damn america" twice and go back to the Kos looney bin.

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by owl06 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:36:10 PM EST
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Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (none / 0)

Thanks, I was looking for a video or transcript of Rev. Wright's NPC appearance.

Here are the videos of Rev. Wright's NAACP Detriot appearance.

by souvarine on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:37:29 PM EST

Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (none / 0)

Beat me by six seconds.

Because I wont trade humanity for patriotism!

by Drewid on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:38:14 PM EST
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Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (none / 0)

http://www.hiphopmusic.com/2008/04/rev_w right_naacp_speech_video.html
Video of NAACP last night

Because I wont trade humanity for patriotism!

by Drewid on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:37:34 PM EST

Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (none / 0)

Unfortuntely, it's not so simple. Is it fair to use Wright in an election against Barack Obama? Not really, but it's being done. On the other hand, is it fair to have a genuine discussion about what Wright said, and how it might be seen? Of course it is. Claiming that because you're not religious, or are not African American, you can't comment on his words is disingenuous.

I was offended by a lot of what he said, period. But do I hold it against Obama? Not really.

"If we can't live together... we're going to die alone."

by VAAlex on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:39:27 PM EST

Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (none / 0)

I hold it against Obama because I did not buy his "race relations in America" speech. I also believe Obama and Wright are close friends, have been so for over 2 decades, and do share some of the same underlying beliefs.

If Obama would have just said "I joined this guy's church to succeed in Chicago-style politics", I actually would have liked that better. He hasn't said that yet...

by mikes101 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:45:09 PM EST
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Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (2.00 / 1)

But Obama has already repeatedly said he doesn't agree with content of the sermons that have been replayed endlessly on TV.

Like Wright said, Obama speaks to his supporters on a political stage -- and Wright speaks to his supporters from a pulpit -- his ministry.

I didn't think his speech was great either, but I'm still not going to hold Wright against Obama. I have many Republican friends and in fact my best friend is a hard-core, conservative Republican who is pretty much a diametric opposite of me on 95% of all issues. Does that mean that I would disown him if I ever ran for something? Of course not.

"If we can't live together... we're going to die alone."

by VAAlex on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:50:50 PM EST
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Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (none / 0)

yeah and I bet you believe once Obama is elected he is gonna enslave the white race paint the white house black

PUMA: Particularly Undeveloped Mental Ability

by wellinformed on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:21:51 PM EST
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Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (none / 0)

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by obamaforprez on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:43:06 PM EST
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Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (1.00 / 1)

You didn't buy the whole race speech? Why is that?

Boy oh boy are the dixicrats out in full force on MyDD. Has Obama done ANYTHING to make you think that he believes what Rev. Wright says?

It is amazing how white people are finally showing their true colors. Oh wait, us black folks already knew what you guys were all about.

Thanks again!!

by cranberry on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:24:00 PM EST
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Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (none / 0)

"It is amazing how white people are finally showing their true colors."

Nice.

Vicious.

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by switching sides on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:43:20 PM EST
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Angry man (none / 0)

The poster doesn't accept a speech that your candidate makes and you call him a Dixiecrat and impugn the entire white race.

You are angry no?

by wasanyonehurt on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:42:07 PM EST
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Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (none / 0)

Listening to Reverend Wright's speech last night, we can tell that he is not a stupid man. In fact he's more intelligent than I originally thought. That being said, Why would he be close friends for over 2 decades with someone, if that person were using his church just for political gain? If anything he wouldn't let his church be taken advantage of. Rational thinking says believing in both statements makes no sense.

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by johnny sexton on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:04:20 PM EST
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Thanks (none / 0)

I have been at work and haven't had a chance to look at the stuff from today.

In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

by Dracomicron on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:39:32 PM EST

We want to invite Rev. Wright to Princeton (none / 0)

But in the wake of this weekend's media coverage, we decided to discuss our plans. I proposed Three questions, and would like your opinions too.

Controversy aside is Rev. Wright somebody we ought to invite to Princeton Seminary?

I think the answer to this question is an easy yes. I can imagine after April 4th of 67' many people were asking if they should be associated with Dr. King. The media and political classes has disavowed him. He was a stigmatized figure for saying what ought to be said. The role of the Church, in that time, was to stand by Dr. King. Rev. Wright, in an analogous yet not tantamount
position to King's, is facing criticism from the same folks, on generation removed. Our role, as a theological institution, ought to be to stand by him. Not to mention after seeing many of his sermons and this weekend's event he would be a joy to hear speak.

Ought we take into consideration Sen. Obama's electoral chances by inviting Rev. Wright?

This where the rather easy answer to the first question becomes difficult. We live in Theological and Political spheres. Part of me feels that by turning away from plans to bring Rev. Wright we are giving way to the racists voices in society. We are effectively segregating his views under the pressures of media. However, there is perhaps a greater good on the horizon in Sen. Obama...or, inversely, darkness on the horizon in the policies of Sen. McCain. This question I have no simple answer for.

If so, would inviting Rev. Wright to PTS hurt or help Sen. Obama's electoral chances?

Mark, your right about how many would see Rev. Wright's visit. I'm sure the peddlers of hate would be out in force. Perhaps we would even get a visit from Bill O'Rielly himself. Does PTS has enough public "cred" to send a positive statement by inviting Rev. Wright. As the oldest, largest, and leading Theological Institution in the country does our standing by him send a message. Will clergy take notice and be inspired to speak out on the issue? Largely that depends on how we go about it. Perhaps when the campaign gets back to me we'll have their opinion on this question. He is releasing a book in the fall (I believe on education challenges in African American Youth) which I image will send him on a publicity tour as is.

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by CardBoard on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:44:10 PM EST

Re: We want to invite Rev. Wright to Princeton (none / 0)

You bring up some interesting questions, but I fear you may have lost everyone here at controversy aside.

Seriously though, I think that the goal of fostering an environment that is open to challenging ideas is more important than the considerations of Obama's campaign (though I don't believe that it is clear whether Wright speaking more would help or hurt Obama). Wright will be brought up time and time again whether you bring him to speak or not.

John McCain is surprisingly bad for this country

by minnesotaryan on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:18:02 PM EST
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Re: We want to invite Rev. Wright to Princeton (none / 0)

C'mon, Cardboard MLK never said anyhting about Vietnam or Poverty, in fact after the Civil Rights Act in 1964, he was silent until he was killed!

Seriously, the whitewashing of King is one of the reasons Wright, or any other African-Aemrican Theologian for that matter, is going to look bad, its hard enough to live up to the giant King actually was, living up to the nigh-Messianic figure he's become in our culture is impossible.

by Socraticsilence on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:45:50 PM EST
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Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (none / 0)

"I hold it against Obama because I did not buy his "race relations in America" speech"

Which part(s) of this did you not buy

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/030 8/9100.html

"If you want to end war and stuff, you gotta sing loud"...Arlo Guthrie

by nogo war on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:53:56 PM EST

Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (none / 0)

Why did Martin Luther King Jr. hate America?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b80Bsw0UG -U

"If you want to end war and stuff, you gotta sing loud"...Arlo Guthrie

by nogo war on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:58:21 PM EST

Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (none / 0)

Anyone who thinks the Wright media blitz is helping BO is kidding themselfs. Wright is radioactive and he should disappear if he wants to help. Because the narrative on him is done. No one is interested in "how Wright has been treated wrong". He made his own bed and now he has to suffer the result of his words. But to keep going out to the media and just not going to help. And soon they will be asking BO about him again and he will have to parse his answers again and that also is not helpful.

david

by giusd on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:02:48 PM EST

My criticisms of Reverend Wright (none / 0)

are valid. For the record, I go to church and I'm a white man living in South MS, so take that for what you will.

I don't give a shit that he said "God D*** America." Several right wing lunatics have said the same thing.

My problem with Wright comes from his ridiculous statements that the United States government created the AIDS virus to eliminate the black man.

Such a statement proves one of two things! Either he is a complete idiot...or is he so consumed with hatred and resentment of white America that he is incapable of rational thoughts on the subject. I believe it is the second option.

For anyone...especially a REVEREND, to try and turn the tragedy of the AIDS virus into a weapon in a race war is so reprehensible I don't know where to start.

The folks who believe such nonsense need to remember one thing. The common denominator in the AIDS problem is not race, it's POVERTY!! Poor people, across the board, are more likely to be afflicted and under treated in this situation. Yes, that means a lot of black people. It also means a lot of whites.

The AIDS virus is a tragedy. Lives are destroyed. For Reverend Wright to not care about that, but simply use that tragedy to once again blame the white man, is such a disgrace.

The man is a bigot. Whatever else he is, one cannot take that away, he is a bigot. He clearly doesn't give a damn about white people who've contracted the AIDS virus. All he cares about is using this tragedy in a race war against white America.

And doing it in the name of Jesus? All goood Christians of all races would vomit at such a suggestion.

by southernman on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:02:52 PM EST

Re: My criticisms of Reverend Wright (none / 0)

Have you heard the whole quote about the government creating the AIDS virus? I've only seen the snippets about AmeriKKKa and the AIDS virus but nothing beyond the snipper. If it's like the God Damn America or Chickens Coming Home to Roost quote then I bet he was NOT actually saying that America created the AIDS virus for black people. Unfortunately, I haven't seen the full quote yet.

by elrod on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:13:24 PM EST
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Re: For those too lazy to link Rev. Wright (none / 0)

southernman...did you read the links provided?
If so..would you could you please give specifics that you object too.
The purpose of this was to point out how...let's see a proper way to phrase this...

People who are so determined they are right are afraid of information that might challenge their beliefs.

"If you want to end war and stuff, you gotta sing loud"...Arlo Guthrie

by nogo war on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:22:20 PM EST

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